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FF91 Geely? But I feel that it is better than the sky than the sky …

Introduction | What is the case today, Geely announced that the FARADAY FUTURE signed a cooperation agreement, plans to cooperate in technical support and engineering services, and it is possible to provide FF91 by Jilly and Foxconn joint venture. Operating service.

Geely Holdings Group also participated in a small amount of investment in the Faraday Future SPAC.

Car Jun Jun happened to talk about the people of this matter, got some news, and share it with you.

First, the rough situation and status of FF

FARADAY FUTURE (hereinafter referred to as FF), although the name is a US company, but his founder is an authentic Chinese: Jia Yueping. After the top 2016 go to the United States, the founder of this LeTV has not returned and left a saying that it has passed the famous saying: Huntang next week. Two days ago, Zhuhai wants to invest 200 billion investment FF and set up a Chinese joint venture company, and the rivers and lakes are also considered to be a signal that Jia’s “finally returned to China”.

Simple review of FF’s product history.

FF was established in May 2014, in August 2016, a prototype of an electric car was launched, ie FF91. It is alleged that it has 880 patents, and the technology has been determined by Rolandberg.

Rolandberg is not a brand consulting company, when can I do technology?

▲ In December 2017, Journalists were taken in Hanford.

now, with 300 employees worldwide, 2/3 in the United States, engineers account for most. Headquartered in Los Angeles, California, California, manufacturing base in Hanford, California, covers an area of ​​100,000 square meters, and has 10,000 annual production capacity.

However, in December 2017, when the news reporter visited, the factory was ridiculous, except for the doorkeeper couldn’t see several people. Then the worker holiday or dismissal will be reported.

In addition, FF has signed a cooperation agreement with South Korea, and the annual capacity of the local factory can be up to 270,000. China Zhuhai is likely to be its third manufacturing base.

South Korea’s mountain factory, in fact, in September 2019, the subsidiary of MS Autotech, a subsidiary of MS Autotech, South Korea, was established. The latter also participated in the Whenever C round financing, intended to develop South Korea’s electric vehicle market.

Interestingly, Bai Teng Gang and South Korea Partner Signing, the joint founder and CEO Carsten Breitfeld left Bai Teng, and added FF CEO.

In 2018, the Mountain Plant was officially closed as a production base of General Motors, and turned into parts in myoung shin, and then became a joint venture plant, and finally fixed in the Korean manufacturing base of FF. . The skilled worker serving the general car is served, or can become the real maker of FF.

That, what about the 嫡 造 造 造 队?

LeTV’s first CEO Ding Lei, has created a high level in 2017, and in 2020, the first product Hiphi X, and FF91 have many God.

Speaking of the car Jun’s article: Gao He Hiphi X 680,000 for sale, high-stricken, harmonious! . Because Hiphi X and FF91 are too like, many people in the industry believe that Ding Lei has completed the car dream of Jia Yueping with another brand.

LeTV’s second CEO Zhang Hai Liang, founded the sky car, the first mass production vehicle ME7 has been listed.

The entire LeTV is branched, and its founder Jia Yueping is suffocated in the United States.

At this time, Bi Fukang’s joining, the accountant of this Shanxi saw the hope – others are all resources, and this foreigner is to join: South Korea’s factory, BMW I8 experience, Ba Teng closed Lessons, a batch of international professional managers, as well as old outer tubesThe ability of international teams.

So, Jia boss has clear the relationship with FF in the surface.

Second, how is the FF91 product?

According to the communication between the influence, the car gathering will get the following information.

The four models are planned, and FF91 is the first, and there are 81, 71, and a 2B logistics car. The models are cross-border forms, not traditional SUVs or cars, each divided into two editions of FF X1 and FF X1 Futurist, which is more expensive.

Tripartite 2C car system, starting price from 290,000-11 million, full to Shitra. Can Ketersla have been price cut? Model S will drop to more than 400,000 this year (Car Jun will write article analysis), but also play?

The ▎FF91 uses a 130KWH battery, NEDC 700km, and now does not protrude. Xiaopeng P7 used 81 degrees to drift to 706km last year (this is a bit empty this year), FF91 is listed next year (if), facing the front hits of the ET7: 150 degrees 1000km (aunt listening).

The battery pack energy density 187Wh / kg is good, but it is not Leading after a year. Model S is likely to use Tesla’s latest 4680 battery, 300WH / kg, and the Skille Solid battery will reach 360kw / kg next year, if there is no bragging.

▎ 0-100km accelerated 2.4 seconds, and the year is amazing. But the new Model s Plaid Plus version that has just announced yesterday is less than 2.1 seconds. Moreover, you can pay the car this year (if Ma Yilong does not empty the gun). And the horsepower is 1100HP, which is more than 1050hp that is proud of FF91.

▎11 display, 3.2 m wheelbase, 1.2 meters behind the leg space, it sounds cool, but open this car to Lujiazui, can the Guomao do this CBD stop? Do you buy a special parking space? Volvo said: more is lESS.

A US factory in Hanford, a Korean factory in the mountains, and a Chinese factory in Zhuhai (talk). The year of production and production capacity is: 10,000 in 2021, 2.70,000 vehicles in 2023, 15 + 150,000 in 2025.

▎ 吉 吉 or will provide the FF Mid-Terminal Platform (with the latest SEA architecture?), As well as the Subcommittee of the Foxconn joint venture. At the same time, Geely has a small amount of financial investment.

Overall, FF91 is good. The reader of a car said that he had seen the human computer dialogue video of this car, and it feels too intelligent. It does have a science.

But no matter what, this is a product 5 years ago. Smart cars are more and more electronic products, and technology will face iterations in one or two years. For example, the automatic driving of L3 and above is now developed to laser radar, high-precision map, 5G signal, V2X, these need to be played in the Chinese market. Obviously, FF91 has missed the golden period.

The most deadly, I am afraid it is a cost of high-profile. This is directly related to whether it can make a decent mass production car before the money investor’s money and achieve a decent cash flow.

Its thinking is to latise, but Tesla’s biggest skill is actually:

cost control

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This, whether it is Jia Yueping, or Bi Fukang, or the professional manager who jumped over from the team, it could not do it.

Almost on the same day, Model S promoted Chinese users in the third quarter, 790,000 is only a scorpion, and the actual delivery price is expected to be more than 400,000. At that time, 1.0 million FF91 had not been put behind yet.

The only thing can help it, this is really Geely and Fuji, they can provide low-cost solutions under the premise of ensuring quality. However, it seems that it is difficult to return to the sky.

Jia Yueping is a bit right, and the car manufacturing is to speak ecology. But that ecology is a similar universe dark forest lawThe ecology is not ecological, not a few people in the industry.

Elon Musk is not to hit, even don’t even look, it looks weird, but actually is a true ecology. Do your new battery, buy mines upstream, develop die-casting machine in manufacturing, in order to spend the production of the hell, you should go to the tent, and you will not recognize the problem, and even dare to Chinese government …

It is estimated that the entire automotive industry, no founders can do mighty on the workshop and sleep on the sofa, and the social media and netizens around the world interact.

This is not a man of Jia Yueping, but he really missed.

FARADAY FUTURE, it is likely no future. But let’s observe again. Let’s take a look at what new tricks can be played, let our automotive industry become more interesting …

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